Eric Longerhagenflagensmagen? Yonder Alonso contract details, salary breakdowns, payroll salaries, bonuses, career earnings, market value, transactions and statistics. So no, it’s not my logic, its facts. This is the second time in three years that Preller has passed on the best player available to take a guy who would supposedly sign for cheaper and then gave his guy a bigger signing bonus than the guy he passed on got. Ryan Weathers jumps into top 10. AJ Cassavell of MLB.com was first to tweet news of the signing; Jim Callis of MLB.com reports that he’ll receive the full slot amount of $5,226.500 as his signing bonus. They run an f’ing opinionated website. “Maybe Liberatore just didn’t want to go to San Diego for whatever reason.” The Padres have signed left-hander Ryan Weathers, the number seven overall pick in this year’s amateur draft. Gore, Lucchesi, Weathers, Morejon, Lauer/Allen. They got about 40k left to go over 125k in the later rounds. High school players in particular have tons of leverage and can kinda pick where they want to go. Cuz apparently the Rays are so much better? Like if you’re drafted in the top 10 and you try to play hardball more often then not you end up like Aiken/Whitson. Definitely a riskier signing now that I see the dollar amount. It sounds really good on paper, but that just shows you how unpredictable baseball is. Pick #16 got payed $100,000 less than expected. He had all the leverage.” But he was supposed to sign for significantly under slot and he didn’t. And as for Weathers, once he was drafted in that slot he probably demanded slot money or he wouldn’t sign either. Their system counts three southpaws on MLB.com’s top-100 list. LeBlanc doesn’t have a 95 mph fastball. Weathers also has a fair amount of pedigree; his father is Dave Weathers, who enjoyed a major-league career spanning a remarkable 19 seasons. Literally no one had Weathers ahead of Stewart, Singer or Liberatore. The only positives I see in Weathers are his pedigree, his mature mound presence, and the fact he’s a high school kid that already has control and command of three to four pitches.. Weathers’ change-up, coupled with his fastball command, could allow his “stuff” to play up as he climbs the MiL ranks.. So if I understand correctly, you are saying that Preller was right and everyone else was wrong? The 18-year-old Weathers, the seventh overall pick in last month’s draft, on Sunday agreed to sign for the recommended bonus – $5.23 million – a source confirmed for the Union-Tribune. If Liberatore was drafted earlier, he probably would’ve signed for the same amount as Weathers or slightly less. Also, Libertore doesnt come from a MLB household. Ryan Weathers stands with his parents Kelli and David after he was named the 2017-2018 Gatorade National Baseball Player of the Year at a surprise ceremony at Loretto High School on May 31. All good prospects.. only time will tell. I’m not saying they have to do anything. Log in Register, MLB Trade Rumors is not affiliated with Major League Baseball, MLB or MLB.com, 2020-21 Top 50 MLB Free Agents With Predictions, Twins Non-Tender Eddie Rosario, Matt Wisler, Cubs Non-Tender Schwarber, Almora, Tepera, AL Notes: King Felix, Tigers, Angels, Richards, International Notes: Twins, Phillies, Cardinals, Rockies Non-Tender David Dahl, Tony Wolters, White Sox Non-Tender Nomar Mazara, Carlos Rodon, Major League Baseball Announces Formation Of MLB Draft League, Thomas Eshelman Clears Waivers, Elects Free Agency, Domingo Santana To Sign With Japan’s Yakult Swallows, Brewers Non-Tender Ben Gamel, Alex Claudio, Jace Peterson, How To Set Up Notifications For Breaking News. Don’t think questioning Preller’s prospect knowledge is a good idea. Overall, I liked the Edwards pick a lot more than this pick. That tells us Preller knows what he’s doing. I loved this pick, saved us enough money to snag Xavier Edwards with pick two. Join Facebook to connect with Ryan Weathers and others you may know. Join Facebook to connect with Ryan Weathers and others you may know. You have to give hindsight scouting to both or neither. Or maybe the Padres and other teams saw something they didn’t like in Liberatore’s workout. Well, at least he didn’t go overslot..Which could have kept the Padres from going over to get Edwards…??…Maybe..lol. His fastball sat in the low nineties this past spring, clocking in at up to 95 MPH on a few occasions. “The better pitcher”? You may occasionally receive promotional content from the San Diego Union-Tribune. Signing bonuses for those picks are valued at about $5.2 million and … That’s just mean…. I mean, isn’t it possible that Liberatore and his reps, in meetings with teams pre-draft, told the Padres not to draft him or he’d just go to college; maybe for some reason he doesn’t want to play for SD and some of the other teams who passed on him. Draft #19, 22, 26 got payed the amount that was projected even though he was ranked higher. So, it looks like by drafting Liberatore instead of Weathers, not only could the Padres possibly saved a few thousand dollars, they would have also gotten the pitcher with a much higher ceiling.. Uh yeah. How do you think these baseball writers come up with these reports? Just a theory. ... both are committed to Vanderbilt University and could opt to attend school rather than turn pro now that a first-round signing bonus is off the table. Far above slot for that matter. Bashing Preller because you are “guessing” one kid will be better than another. 2018 Amateur Draft 2018 Amateur Draft Signings San Diego Padres. Sure the guy has a great pedigree, but he doesn’t even have a true “out” pitch. He has all the leverage obviously as a HS senior. PS: Weathers got full slot-value. As such, it was a bit of a surprise to see the Padres take him with the seventh overall selection, though it’s worth noting that 2018 marks the second consecutive year that the Friars selected a high school lefty with their first round pick (they took MacKenzie Gore third overall last year). Tyler Stubblefield. Get our free Padres Daily newsletter, free to your inbox every day of the season. So basically you are saying g that Preller is right and all those other scouts were wrong. So if what you were saying were true then Liberatore would’ve had a higher signing bonus than projected because he was picked lower than he was ranked, but that didn’t happen, Okay so here’s what you’re saying. 100) are all ranked among MLB.com’s top-100 prospects in the game, and Weathers, the son of a veteran of 19 major league seasons, certainly has the pedigree and stuff to join them. Subscribe to email newsletters from the Union-Tribune about news, sports, business, opinion and more. 7,406 Followers, 1,367 Following, 36 Posts - See Instagram photos and videos from Ryan Weathers (@ryanweathers25) You have no idea nor does anyone else……. Loretto’s Ryan Weathers pitches against Lawrence County during a game earlier this year at Vanderbilt. I’m saying if you are projected to go lower but get picked in the top 10, choosing to go to college over signing is at best greedy and at worst reckless. The whole “he’s a great athlete, he won a basketball state championship” is watered significantly when you realize Tennessee isn’t a basketball hot bed. Name one? It doesn’t matter where you’re projected. He’s a very cerebral pitcher, and that’s a trait that CANNOT be overlooked.. Now, guys like Soroka don’t come along very often, especially not having that kind of mindset and approach at the age of 20, but maybe Weathers is another cerebral pitcher, and maybe that’ll be his key to future success..?? Maybe, just maybe, they thought that Weathers was the better prospect and they were ok with signing him at slot value . New, 9 comments. Apparently Weathers does. Please login to leave a reply. Who give AF? Padres first-rounder Ryan Weathers is his father’s son. And gave up a top 10 prospect in baseball (and a shortstop to boot) for more trash (Wil Myers), You also seem to care a lot of where prospects are ranked. …. Now they can officially begin assessing where Ryan Weathers fits in. SDN [2] ID Numbers. You guys who think you already know who will be the better Major League pitcher 4 years from now crack me up. The Alex Smith Story is a Modern NFL TRAGEDY - Duration: 18:34. Column: Padres must chase down pitching, again, Club needs a dependable, front-line starter with Mike Clevinger sidelined, Column: MLB seems likely to lend Padres, others a big hand with expanded postseason. He will report to the Padres’ spring training complex in Peoria, Ariz., for the start of his professional career shortly after Monday’s introductory press conference. Ryan Weathers: 2017-2018 Gatorade National Baseball Player of the Year - Duration: 2:39. It’s generally believed that Weathers has a high floor for a high school selection. By Kyle Downing | July 1, 2018 at 6:30pm CDT. They already have Edwards re re Regardless though, it’ll be interesting to see how the careers of Weathers, the Braves’ high school pitcher Carter Stewart, and the Rays’ Liberatore all turn out..Along with the other high school pitchers from the first round of the 2018 draft.. I’m putting my money on Carter Stewart having the best career, but he hasn’t even signed yet, sooo…Yeah, he needs to sign aoon, so I can finally calm down lol…, Anyways, Carter was the Braves’ consensus #1 prospect in the 2018 draft..Or at least that is what they’ve said, so take that for what it is worth..lol. Weathers, who will be introduced Monday morning at Petco Park, went 10-0 with a 0.09 ERA and 148 strikeouts in 76 innings at Tennessee’s Loretto High School, following MacKenzie Gore – last year’s first-rounder – as the Gatorade National Baseball High School Player of the Year. And even if your logic were true, Liberatore would still have been cheaper than Weathers cuz he signed for below slot while Weathers signed for slot. I was just trying to help out and stick up for the guy earlier..You know, the one who was clearly wrong about pretty much everything he said..lol. They get to basically pick their landing spot. Some scouts believe his big curveball might be an even better pitch than his fastball. You do realize that if you get picked later in the draft your signing bonus starts decreasing, right? Somehow, I get the feeling that Weathers won’t be another Mike Soroka situation. A lot of the best HS kids have dropped in the past to avoid getting drafted by certain teams. In that case, Kyler Murray wouldn’t have had a signing bonus of $4.7 million (picked 9th overall ranked #36), Grayson Ridriguez wouldn’t have had a signing bonus of $4.3 (picked 11th overall ranked #22), Jordyn Adams wouldn’t have had a signing bonus of $4.1 (Picked 17 ranked #37). While World Series tournaments with more teams seem on the horizon, older clubs had only one path to playoffs. But it was my impression that he was going to and that was why they took him because he clearly wasn’t the best player available. Nearly every team who picks in the first round pretty much knows they can absolutely sign the guy otherwise they don’t take him. Signing Scouts. Picks #13, 14, 23, 24 were also lower than they were picked, but still signed a bonus the same amount than projected and pick #17 got payed $600,000 more than projected. And just about every report also said that Weathers would be a cheap sign and he wasn’t. The San Diego Padres followed much of the media consensus Monday and called the first high school pitcher off the board. I think you’d have to ask yourself which is better: the duo of Weathers and Edwards or Liberatore?? Weathers has been in ML clubhouses. Register Pitching; Year Age AgeDif Tm Lg Lev Aff W L W-L% ERA RA9 G GS GF CG SHO SV IP H R ER HR BB IBB SO HBP BK WP BF WHIP H9 HR9 BB9 SO9 SO/W; 2018: 18: 2 Teams: 2 Lgs: Rk-A: SDP: 0: 3.000: 3.44 So let’s put it this way, the Padres gave up the top #95 prospect in all of baseball and pitching prospect that didn’t even make it into the Padres top 20 in 2014 for the 2013 AL rookie of the year. We signed our guy and now we have a gaggle of good LH pitching prospects. What I’m saying is whatever Liberatore got was what he was asking for all along and if the reports of him wanting top 5 pick money were true he’d be going to college. I take back my earlier comments forsure, but just got to trust the process as a fan of the game.. Yeah they updated the article and posted the dollar amount. Preller has a better track record than them in the scouting dept. Players tell teams not to draft them all the time. As a draft-eligible sophomore, he will command a hefty signing bonus. Quote this scout or that. 11 Georgia prepares for its final home game of 2020 against Vanderbilt. “Why would he sign for below-slot? No player is trying to sign for x amount over slot. As an example, if scouts from 25 different teams like Liberatore better than Weathers, you’ll see him ranked higher. June 28, 2020: San Diego Padres invited non-roster LHP Ryan Weathers to spring training. They saved absolutely no money with this move. I can’t help you with Liberatore or Singer, but Murray was ranked #36 because of sign-ability questions (football). Correct, and even though neither of us are professional scouts…Last I checked the professional scouts ranked both Liberatore and Stewart higher than Weathers.. No one is making claims of anyone being an all-star, we are just saying which guy we’d rather have.. Lol I like how you give hindsight scouting to Tatis but not Turner. Bond fire rapidly jumps through Orange County canyons, forcing more evacuations. If his agent plays hardball with a team and doesn’t give them indication he will sign he probably has insurances with another team like the rays or Royals who had all kinds of money to spend that he will get picked later and still get 1st round money. Lol bro, they didn’t say what his pay was until after my comment was posted. Nice try bro but not a single scout had this guy ahead of Liberatore. You do realize that the Padres traded Truner when he was a #95 prospect, right? Mlb draft because of the slotting system makes it nearly impossible to predict. Organizations. Why was Kyler Murray drafter 9th overall when he was ranked #36? If football wasn’t in the picture, he would’ve been ranked much, much higher. Though the Loretto (Tennessee) High School product was a consensus first-round talent according to MLB.com, Baseball America and Fangraphs, all three of those publications ranked him outside of their top ten draft prospects; MLB.com in particular cited his lack of a “true out pitch” as reason to doubt he’d be taken so high in the draft. It also tells us that maybe they wanted Weathers instead of Liberatore for reasons we aren’t privy too. No one said Liberatore is a slam dunk All Star Einstein. I’m pretty sure he only signed for 3.5 mil. Okay dude I don’t know if you know anything about sports, but in most drafts the higher you get picked the higher signing bonus you’ll get . Ehh, I don’t think that is necessarily the only case to be made. Nope because Weathers got a bigger signing bonus than Liberatore. Weathers is a power pitcher with finesse, thanks to his ability to locate the ball well. Many speculated that the Padres felt comfortable they could get him to sign at a discount there which would have allowed them to go after some other talented players who fell in later rounds. Right on the money Priggs. ... an opportunity Weathers passed on to accept a $5,226,500 signing bonus from the Padres. He is the son of former big league reliever David Weathers. Not a decent pick considering Brady Singer, Matt Liberatore and Carter Stewart were still on the board and Liberatore signed for cheaper than Weathers. He obliged by signing for $4.3 million, or almost a million less than the $5.18 million San Diego had for the draft slot–money they used to snag Cole Wilcox in the third round. At 6’5” and 230 pounds Wilcox is a potential ace with his high 90s heat and plus slider. He made an immediate impact in his first season of professional baseball, dominating at short-season Grand Junction as the Rockies looked to limit the mileage on his arm after 97 innings … He had all the leverage. I may be mistaken, but didn’t Liberatore check off those boxes too..? But neither is Weathers. You’re right, they just updated the article and I saw he got full bonus. But you can’t say it was a mistake “now”. Now let’s do it vice versa, players who were ranked high, but got pick low. Obviously no one can say for sure tho. The son of 19-year major league veteran David Weathers, Ryan is an advanced lefthanded pitcher out of Tennessee who offers a high floor for a prep arm. He uses all three offerings to his advantage even though he lacks a true out pitch. MLB.com’s Jim Callis first reported Weathers’ signing bonus, which will keep him from his college commitment to Vanderbilt. Those professional scouts you are referring to also liked Liberatore better. you think Preller and his staff didn’t spend months going over all the possibilities? The kid was drafter 16th overall when he was ranked #4, so obviously there were 15 other teams with professional scouts that saw somebody else stand out more than him. And if I’m a player I’d demand more money if I were drafted lower. Ryan Weathers, the most high-profile member of Vanderbilt baseball’s 2018 signing class, won’t play for the Commodores after all. View the profiles of people named Ryan Weathers. He’s not going to accept less money just cuz he got picked later. Some draftees don’t always live up to the hype. That’s only $160 short of their aforementioned ceiling. Also…..the Padres have arguably the best Farm system in baseball. Liberatore was drafter 16th overall for a reason. Ryan Weathers, a member of Vanderbilt’s 2018 signing class, was named the Gatorade National Baseball Player of the Year on Thursday. I was surprised the Padres went with Weathers when they could have picked other pitchers with higher ceilings, especially because of the fact that they are still rebuilding and Preller loves high-ceiling guys. at any rate, it’s another five years before we know how these choices by all the teams pan out,. That’s a lie. 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Out of the top 30 picks, Draft pick #9 ,11, 28 were ranked lower, but still signed a bonus $100,000 less than projected which is not a lot considering they were ranked lower than expected. Update, 7/6: Schwarz signed for $140,000, bringing the A’s total bonus pool spending up to $10,030,700. Do you know anything “personally” about Liberatores’ make up? The only way that is a good move is if you think Edwards is better than Liberatore. Gatorade POY 26,997 views. Today none of us know what will become of these players, but the industry consensus was that Weathers wasn’t the 7th best player in this draft. 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Do you realize that Tatis was a complete unknown who hadn’t even made his stateside debut and appeared on ZERO top 100 prospect lists when the White Sox traded him? Wtf is Preller doing!? But they went off script for many by selecting Ryan Weathers.. Weathers, like 2016 first-rounder Cal Quantrill, is a second-generation pitcher, and has been on scouting radar throughout his high school career.He emerged as a potential first-round option last summer … It would have made more sense if Weathers signed underslot, but that didn’t happen. And, as a Braves’ fan, Soroka is also now my favorite pitcher in their rotation..Reading his interviews are AWESOME!! TBC PREMIUM. He was the last one of the top 10 rounds No. Preller is genius can’t you tell by his trades and free agent signings. While if you are projected to go higher but fall, then the odds of you doing better in a future draft are higher so you’d have to be well compensated for foregoing that chance. They use their years of industry experience and connections to talk to numerous scouts and front office personnel to form a consensus opinion of these players. I thought Liberatore, was just about a sure fire top 8 pick, falling at the LATEST to the Braves, and I can’t believe the Rays ended up getting him with what could be the steal of the 1st round.. Weathers is well-known for his overall athleticism, having led his high school to their first-ever state championship in basketball prior to pitching for them this spring. San Diegan Barry Zito is on the ballot for the first time, but could a lack of no-doubt Hall of Fame candidates inch Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens closer to the Baseball Hall of Fame? If he does as well as his dad, it was a good choice. All the relevant draft publications had Liberatore and Stewart ahead of Weathers. 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Only time will tell though! Doesn’t save the Padres any money for Edwards. Kershaw is a prime example. That could be why he dropped. who really knows? Weathers could have been a safer bet, but based on scouts Liberatore had much more potential. L White especially seems to have a pedigree of sorts when draft left handed pitchers out of high school. Let us tell you what will happen. No. Don’t you know that us fans who have probably never watched 90% of the first rounders know more than the professional scouts? Thursday No. It helps. Now, it faces a backlash, State officials are considering the kind of stay-at-home order that helped curb the virus’ spread in the spring. I mean, I’m obviously not a professional scout, nor did I sleep anywhere that makes it okay for me to pretend to be one..lol..So, really only time will tell the tale, but Weathers could suprise some folks.. For a prospect that doesn’t have excellent stuff, or an electric arm; in order to be successful, he better have a mature approach, mix his pitches well, and have some excellent command..Which, again, those are all boxes that Weathers checks off.. Alot of “prospect analysts” said Mike Soroka wouldn’t be as good as his draft peers for alot of the same reasons..Soroka was seen as a high floor, high school pitcher coming from Canada, but how high is his ceiling now?? Weathers ended up getting the full slot value -- $5.23 million. In his first at-bat against Ryan Weathers, he chased a fastball up and out of the zone while striking out, then against lesser talent later in the game slashed a stand up triple to the gap. The White Sox giving up an unknown Dominican League player and a failed pitching prospect for an innings eater who had a 3.06 ERA prior to his last start with the Padres also sounded good on paper. Service Time. Why would he sign for below-slot? That's precisely the assigned slot value of the No. Lefty Ryan Rolison was a draft0eligible sophomore out of Ole Miss. Not just one. 11 Georgia faces winless Vandy, Fuller in home finale, Senior day is packed with uncertainty as No. The Padres have signed left-hander Ryan Weathers, the number seven overall pick in this year’s amateur draft. I take back my statement from earlier, but still Weathers was a decent pickup imo from all the scouting videos and articles I saw. If that was it I’m pretty sure the Rays would have been one of the teams he didn’t want to play for. Would have preferred Stewart over Weathers as well. 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I still can’t understand why teams passed on those players, but many of them did, so there must be a good reason. Padres pitcher Chris Paddack on start vs. Mariners and possibility of making rotation, Catching up with Padres reliever Craig Stammen, Three things that stood out from Machado's first day with the Padres, Padres manager Andy Green on Machado joining his roster, jeff.sanders@sduniontribune.com; Twitter: @sdutSanders. The 6-foot-1, 200-pound Weathers was sitting 94-95 mph in his state championship before the draft, a heavy four-seamer that he pairs with a downward-biting slider and a low-80s change-up. Horizon, older clubs had only one path to playoffs before we know how these choices by all time. Than Weathers, you ’ re forgetting the Padres and other teams something. Once he was supposed to sign for x amount over slot much of the media Monday! Career earnings, market value, transactions and statistics you think Edwards is better the. 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